Mayor Gregor makes Monday morning appearance on CKNW open line

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Was Mayor Gregor Robertson really clueless about riot preparations?

After making a brief appearance on the Bill Good Show a few days after Robertson's Riot, Mayor Gregor has not fielded any questions from their listeners. That's all about to change on Monday morning as His Worship makes his way to the CKNW studios and they open up the lines. You can anticipate questions on everything from the riot, mini-wheat fields on front lawns, back yard chickens, bike lanes and much more.

The last time Mayor Gregor was on the air with Bill Good he was still spinning out how the riot was caused by a small group of "hoodlums and anarchists." That initial spin has since been proven to be false.

If you don't want to wait until the November 19th civic election to hold Robertson accountable, you may want to get your dialing fingers ready at around 8:40 am. If you live in Metro Vancouver, you can call the CKNW open line at 604-280-9898.

Robertson also published a real nose stretcher opinion piece in the Vancouver Sun over the weekend regarding the riot. He states (emphasis ours):

I've said from Day 1 that, as mayor, I am ultimately responsible for public safety. I spoke frequently with Chief Jim Chu throughout the playoffs about police preparations, and ensured that everything the VPD asked for in terms of city resources, they received.

Really Mr. Mayor? You accepted ultimate responsibility for what happened? That's clearly not what you were telling the media only a few weeks ago.

Unfortunately Robertson's guest column didn't shed any light on the role his office played in the lead up to and during the Game 7 riot. We also still don't know how many police were on duty that fateful night. We can only hold out hope that he'll include this kind of information his next opinion piece.

Meanwhile, the NPA continues to apply pressure on the Mayor regarding Robertson's Riot. Late last week opposition leader Suzanne Anton wrote an open letter asking for answers to some very difficult questions. Here is a copy of her letter:

On June 27th, I asked you, Mr. Robertson, to discuss the Stanley Cup Riot and answer some of the public's questions about your role and the City's in the planning process. You shut off my microphone.

Today, Mr. Mayor, you published a piece in the Vancouver Sun, so it appears you are finally ready to discuss your role in the riots, albeit a very one-sided discussion.

Your opinion piece raises more questions than it answers. For example in the Globe and Mail on June 25, you are quoted as saying: "I didn't know any details. That's how the system is set up. ... I have full confidence in the chief and the chief is responsible for that plan."

Now, in your opinion piece, you say: "I spoke frequently with Chief Jim Chu throughout the playoffs about police preparations, and ensured that everything the VPD asked for in terms of city resources, they received." Which is it, Mr. Mayor?

Today you say there were "well resourced and coordinated plans for the Stanley Cup playoffs downtown, which were constantly adjusted.... A wide range of city departments and stakeholders were involved in the planning of the live sites, liquor store closures and street management." Then you say, "Now we need to rely on an independent review to identify what the shortcomings were."

Except that the independent Provincial inquiry is limited in its scope. It will not be investigating the role of mayor and council in encouraging 100,000 plus people to come and celebrate. What about all those other city departments. What about that "cross-departmental planning" you talk about, Mr. Mayor?

Today you say: "We should leave no stone unturned in our analysis." And: "We need to identify what mistakes were made and how things could have been done differently. There are now three internal reviews underway at the city, police and fire departments..."

And yet, Mr. Mayor, it took four weeks, a great deal of pressure and a motion from me to get an internal review. Even now, there is still no assurance of independence. All the departments must report to the very people--you and the City Manager--who were the top decision makers in the planning process. How can the public believe this will "leave no stone unturned?"

What you choose to see as "political posturing" and trying "to score cheap political points" are actually attempts to ask relevant, important questions in a forum that allows public input. You seem to treat any attempts to hold you accountable with contempt. You have shut off my microphone in council, you have refused to discuss this with me on the radio.

So I ask you, Mr. Mayor, where does the public get answers? Where do you account to the public for your role in this?

So, one more time, Mr. Mayor, here are some of the questions the public has been asking:

  • Will the businesses and public affected by the riot be allowed input into this review?
  • Did you participate in and review the plans with the City Manager, department heads, the Police Chief and the Fire Chief to ensure the safety of our city, its residents, its businesses and its image?
  • Will you, Mr. Mayor, your staff and Councillors make available all the documentation and internal written communication they have for the planning of the Stanley Cup playoffs?
  • What was done in the planning of the celebrations to ensure the safety of citizens and businesses?
  • What role did the fan zones play? Were they well planned and well managed?
  • Were crowd and liquor control plans adequate?
  • Was transportation in and out of the city (buses, taxis, skytrain) effectively coordinated?
  • Do you know the number of police officers that were on the street that night - or not?
  • Was the previous experience, like the City's own Review of the Management of Large Events in the City of Vancouver from 1994, considered?
  • Did the VPD approach City Councillors, the Mayor's office and/or senior city staff after the San Jose series and notify them that additional resources may be required? (Chief said he did)?
  • Why did you not raise the issue of downtown security on the night of game seven at the police board meeting that day?
  • When did the City start to lose control of the downtown live sites, and what were the backup plans?
  • Do any city by-laws need to be reviewed or improved to give police more authority to crack down on rioters and looters?
  • The public expects their elected officials to be accountable. So I ask you, Mr. Mayor, when will you be accountable and answers the questions Vancouverites are asking?

There is currently one independent review of Robertson's Riot taking place by the Province of BC. In addition, the City of Vancouver is undertaking several internal reviews regarding what went wrong. You can expect the riot reviews will begin reporting out sometime in September.

If you have a question that you think Bill Good should pose to the Mayor tomorrow, please post it in our comments section below!

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I hope Anton phones in,we can see how Bill the shill will handle that little surprise.

An important clarifying question related to how many officers were on duty on the night of the riot.

How many Vancouver officers were specifically in the downtown core and within the "Fan" zones.

To ask how many were "on duty" can make for a deceptive answer.

My questions would be:
1) How many are normally on duty for a weeknight?
2) How many additional officers were there specifically for the Stanley Cup event?
3) How many officers were there brought in from RCMP and other municipalities?
4) How many Vancouver officers were called up from at home on standby?
5) How many Vancouver officers came down WITHOUT being called when they learned of the MAYHEM caused by Robertson bonehead party plan?

Judging by the picture, the answer would be yes... (that or something smells bad)

Daniel, perfect!

Why isn't Bill Good inviting both Anton and Robertson on the show at the same time? Now that's a great kickoff to the campaign and it would make for interesting radio too. I bet Gregor would back yard chicken out of it.

I would like to know why it wasnt discussed openly in counsel and all ideas then be taken to the police,fire,engineering and whoever else needed to make it safe.And then after they drew up recemendations it should have been discussed again openly in counsel,and an actual plan formulated between all parties involved.It seems after Klassan made his suggestion,which was a very good one,to open rogers the mayor went crazy trying to be the most funnest guy in world and just kept telling everyone to come on down,and there was no plan in place.They then failed to see that it was getting out of hand when everyone I know could see it.

Something Bill Good likes to do when a caller asks an awkward question is to fire a question back at the mostly nervous caller causing them to bumble a little then he hits the button,badabing badaboom another deflected question,its just that easy.

@gman

Every warning sign you could ask for was there and front line people were seeing it first hand. Boos, drunkenness, unusual objects, hammers, balaclavas, street talk about rioting, so much so that there just HAD to have been alerts sent to those in command.

Plain and simple, someone very high up, (Ballem), put a stranglehold on how the police would staff the event. The Chief and his team were doomed and Ballem has to own up to being directly responsible.

Robertson was ultimately responsible. For bonehead spending $multi-millions$ on concrete, planters, and green midgets. How to pay for Vision's foolish bike lanes, mayor's and city manager's office reno? Choke the money away from policing, from parks, from street repairs. Rent a big TV so that it will be easier to hit with beer bottles.

Vote for more of this stupidity in November all you morons by not taking part in your right to vote. Yes, it's due to the absent voter that we're having to put up with a Propellerhead for a mayor.

gman that is exactly what happened...I remember the day Mike brought up the suggestion...then a poster suggested community centers as well..

within hours Gregor's ego kicked in and the competition began...

what started out as Mike's call to raise money for charity, became Gregor's riot..

To this day I have not heard how much money was raised for charity..

Now if Gregor pops off those numbers on NW tomorrow..just remember I asked first...it wasn't his idea..He likes to steal others ideas...

@Mike is there any way to find out how much money was raised for Canuck Place?...

BruceWayne I agree with everything you said.And I think this party was doomed before game one by the control freaks you mentioned.Now their trying to dump it on anyone they can.This goofy green agenda has to be stopped,I find it insulting,everyday people get more efficient and everyone I know are responsible with the environment,the only time things go wrong is when the government gets involved,it stiffels innovation and hurts the poor the most.

Thats right George,and then when thay tried to imply that Mike should share the blame I couldnt believe my ears.There are only a very few people at the top that know what the true agenda is and this whole thing is really starting to stink.

The (VV) look at Mike as a viable threat.

Everywhere you turn,his is the first name that gets pulled up when they are out to bash the NPA.

Just came accross a tweet directing to an artilce on hte VO. Mike was the only NPA candidate he took aim at.

Max I think Mike should take that as a compliment,voter turnout will be the problem.We know the irrational koolaid drinkers will show up in order to get more wheat seed and save the world by driving us back to the 18th century.This is a very important election.

I think if this happens down at city hall we might be ok.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y6YPjcQJ4g

Isn't it possible that Ballem was involved considering her nano managing ways? The mayor typically just says what he wants and then she has to make it happen...yes or no?

I really hope the review also looks at the role of the main stream media in hyping and promoting 'come downtown to the live sites'
From the minute the playoffs started it became a contest in the media about who could write the most about the Canucks and the games.
All ALL media outlets kept on saying come and watch the games for FREE.

Psychology 100. Offer something free and people will flock to it.

I don't know how those front line workers went in to work knowing that things were getting uglier and uglier.

I couldn't even watch the aftermath of Game 7 on the T.V. it was so awful.

And what makes it even worse, predictable.

"We know the irrational koolaid drinkers will show up in order to get more wheat seed and save the world by driving us back to the 18th century."

Do you actually believe this? Some of your posts are just over the top crazy and it's scary as I can't tell if you're joking or not.

One can only surmise that Vision party faithful can't believe their good fortune as the most well-known online supporter of the NPA finds its comment threads turning into a haven for climate change denial and people who doubt the ability of them there meety-or-all-o-gists to predict the weather.

Sadly however, the people aren't well-served when the spectrum of political viewpoints aren't represented at Council.

But hey, if you don't believe in science, can I have your flat screen? And your computer? And your stereo? And your prescription medicine? I can hold a garage sale and give the money to a good cause.

Chris K, you know and I know that blogs allow us to be extreme in our thought - regardless of political persuasion. I am sure there are lots of Vision/Cope posters that have the party faithful rolling their eyes - so don't get too smug about it.

When did this topic change from Vision screwing the general public to climate change?...and truth be told Chris...you troll that site daily :-)

What is really interesting is how your tone changes when you comment on said site...I love it when AGT gives certain posters a verbal spanking ;-) LOL

Julia:

I'm not smug about it. Slightly horrified actually. As I note. I think it's a disservice to the community when all sides don't have a voice to represent them in gov't.

It will be damn interesting if Adrian Carr does run for council. You have the Greens that have moved away from the VV party, and you have a percentage of COPE disenchanted as well.

Chris (one of many):

I really hope the review also looks at the role of the main stream media in hyping and promoting 'come downtown to the live sites'

The main stream media would not have hyped 'come downtown to the live sites' without a press release from the city's communications to state 'come downtown to the live sites'.

As an event, it seems no one gave much thought to the dynamic of what it actually was. Thousands of people gathered in one spot in a 'virtual island' to collective 'watch TV' stoked with a high emotional investment in winning.

And when they don't win, then what? No one thought what the group dynamic would be for the losers with nothing to do on the streets - especially when this happened previously with no lack of post mortem reports and recommendations.

And just for the fun of it:

Burrard Bridge bike lane...ooops!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVsHUD0VX0c&feature=share

There's is a big difference between climate change denial and global warming hysteria.

I believe, completely, in climate change. The climate of our planet has changed over and over again over thousands and thousands of years.

But the declarations of global warming certainty and all of the religious movements associated with it's hysteria are near comical.

Attached is the link to Newsweek 1975 headline story....... this was back when the scientist were certain we were heading in the exact opposite direction.

http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm

Scientists couldn't predict what the next 20 years looked like back then, even though they claimed to be so convinced of what would happen for 100 years.

I find it hard to concede that they are actually any more certain or likely to be right now.

Climate changes. Duh.

Guess what affects our climate more than anything. Hint....big yellow thing in the sky during the day (places other than Vancouver).

There are many parallels between warmists and religion:

Doctrine of Infallibility = The Science is Settled.

Purchase of dispensations = purchase of carbon credits

Lent = Earth Day

Tithe = Carbon tax

Fatwahs = Boycott the carbon polluters

Do as we say, not as we do = Al Gore has a carbon footprint as big as a dinosaur yet the common folk have to give up their incandescent light bulbs.

Did I miss any?

Correction:

Al Gore and David Cadman....

So we live in a rain forest and the mayor goes on the radio and tells us AGW will dry everything up and says farmers in the valley wont be able to irrigate from the ditches anymore,there going to have to use the reservoir instead.My My,its way worse than we thought,but wait he goes on to say he can save us all with water meters,well I wonder if the mayor knows about the frazer river or is that going to dry up also.Its all just so darned alarming isnt it.And they think Im the crazy one,sheesh.

Bill did you know that earth day falls on Carl Marx birthday.lol

The Thought of The Day

"People, people! Come see the man who has his own circus. The Squirm Burpee Circus. Performing at the Good Tour de Fat Bill Bummer, Mucca Pazza, The Bearded Penny, the Man Who Wasn't There, call in, call in, call in..."

Have anyone actually listened to today's show (that is a good word -show)with the Meeyor?

I didn't want to ruin my breakfast, and there could also be no arguments from the Meeyor that could possibly change my opinion of him and His Visionless...

But... if he would have come out of the closet publicly... or announce that he is suffering from terminal Munchhausen Syndrome... or that he is adopting one of Angelina Jolie kids...that would have made me want to root for him.

Anything less, not so much.
I even encouraged him to take new avenues in progressive thinking! Take a right instead of a left, once in a while.
But would he listen?... noooooo!

We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

The Thought Of The Day

"In the enormity of time and space, talking about Climate Change is like the two farmers in Mogadishu sitting on the side of the road talking about the former IFM head 'Hey Abidjal heard about that old fart Dominique chasing one of our gals around a hotel room in New York? Oh, yeah Mbutu, pity he didn't nail her, I would have... hey, look another monkey crosses the road, do you think she's drunk! You wanna do 'er?' ... Or something like that."

Planet Earth is The Casino, the House, the Owner of us all Gamblers if you may, with limitless resources, and time to spend them.
Remember, she's been doing this for the past 4 -4.5 Billion Years?

Us? Taking a shit for a few hundred thousands of years... furry, ugly, smelly and stupid, most of that time anyways.

And We (at least some of us:the crooks, the swindlers, the profiteers) have the audacity to say that 'We...want to help Save the Planet'?

Wahaha, WahaHa, WahaHa...said out loud.

If Al Gore The Crook In Chief, or Tides Foundation or the Rockefellers wants to help anybody but themselves and their Agenda, they should start helping the People in Africa, and as per Vivian Krause was advocating recently, use those monies to eliminate poverty and advance education not PR Environmental campaigns.
And I would add to that, help our 'advanced' nations to stop killing people in shameless, useless, morally wrong wars.

Talking about anything else and/ or about Saving The Planet (how f%*$ing arrogant is that? Ok,okay, go in front of the mirror and say to your face, "I....... Will Save The Planet Today by Recycling This Plastic Bag , Flushing 1 in 3, and by Not Having Beans with Sauerkraut for Lunch!" and see for yourself how silly you'd look.

You would feel just like that fucked up monkey crossing the road for no good reason in Mogadishu, in front of two horny Farmers.

Believe me, I've almost crossed that road myself before...

We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

"Bill did you know that earth day falls on Carl Marx birthday"

Well, that seemed like an interesting coincidence, but the all-seeing Google rendered a verdict of:

Close, but no cigar.

Although it is interesting that the real Earth Day (as opposed to Marxist-Plot Earth Day) shows up as being one of only two days where multiple no-hitters (2) were pitched in American baseball, and can claim three no-hitters in total. I wonder if any other day of the year has more than three no-hitters recorded?

Baseball made me think of Cheers, and this classic scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=botdmsQilnU

Has Karl Marx ever been in your kitchen gman? I'd bet $22,000 big ones on that! Great fun!

cheers,

CK

Just reading an interesting article poste dup by the Courier on Robertson's green plan, and the cost to 'the little people':

....'For example. According to the plan, “Energy is too cheap… Homeowners, tenants and business owners are not responding to price signals… to motivate them to conserve energy.” The solution? City hall must “lobby/advocate for policy and regulatory change” to increase energy prices (a.k.a. your home heating bill, prices at the pump) and lobby the province to create costly “pay-as-you-drive insurance premiums” and “road and/or congestion pricing.” Hello, toll booths.


Thanks for this information Dennis.
Isn't it interesting that this particular thread has completely turned into a 'green' conversation?

A couple of posters quickly sent it into that direction.

oh chris (one of many) I agree, so lets play this one again ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cjRGee5ipM

Hi chris (one of many):

I need to apologize, I think I helped in the derailment.

I posted a quip from Michael O'Leary, CEO of Raynair, under one of the other topic headings and I think one or two comments to that post popped up on here....

my bad!

@George. On a break from politics this week. Couldn't resist a peek at CC though. Don't know final $$ but 16,000 at $10/head would be the gross for each away game (three?). Less overhead & you have your donation to Canucks for Kids.

Hey Mike, thanks ..good to know..

Considering the price tag from the riot, I would have hoped the owners of the Canucks would have tossed in a little somthin somthin for good will...

Happened long before you Max :)

Anyone listen to the mayor on'NW? I missed it.

Yes, but soemthing has changed. CKNW is now reporting Robertson now knows how many police were on the streets the night of the riot, but he is not making the number public unless he is instructed to under a 'provincial revue'.

From the CKNW site:

...Gregor Robertson says Police Chief Jim Chu has now told him how many police officers were on duty that night. That's after weeks of not knowing the number. He says it won't be made public unless an independant provincial government review decides to do that'

oh how very transparent of him..

I listened ..but I felt the phones were pretty stacked..a few good calls but the entire interview was very controlled and scripted...not much opportunity for honest conversation..

Gregor was pretty fast lipped with his attack on John Cummin' suggestion for the taxation for the transportation situation..Gregor and Vision have a huge problem with respect for other officials..name calling is an art form..
Pretty disappointing, my teenager has more respect for others than this man does, and for my teen it comes naturally to be respectful...must be the non organic food I feed my kids..lol

I know, if I heard one more person calling in about how touchy feel good the police response was I think I would have lost my breaky.

It seems lost on many that people in certin shops were afraid for their lives, and that how many people lnded in hospital just 'beacause' - but let's not get heavy handed with the 'rioters', they are 'kids from good families' you know, that ....just ...yada, yada, yada.

Personally, my dad would have busted my ass had I EVER done something as stupid.

And we wonder why we as a society face some of the issues we do today. It starts at home.

LMAO Glissando!
The next statement MUST be send to that idiot Robertson and his ship of fools " Talking about anything else and/ or about Saving The Planet (how f%*$ing arrogant is that? Ok,okay, go in front of the mirror and say to your face, "I....... Will Save The Planet Today by Recycling This Plastic Bag , Flushing 1 in 3, and by Not Having Beans with Sauerkraut for Lunch!" and see for yourself how silly you'd look."
I want Gregor to do that TODAY!
Then take his idiotic plan and shove it he knows where! Incredible.
And, by the way, Glissy :-) you must be either the luckiest man alive or the most unlucky guy on the planet...if you are married, or have a girlfriend. I don't know if anyone seen this pretty group of (3) women yesterday evening @FolkFestival who were wearing Tshirts with "Marry Me Glissando Remmy!" and a phone number... (possibly Vision operatives, but I hope not)
I am absolutely not making this up, and yeah, if you are interested give me a shout and I'll give the number to CityCaucus to send it to you privately,
you hit a nerve with the girls Remmy buddy :-)

Water meters!

Once again, the government wants to treat people like babies. Instead of actually working with citizens to make things work better, they choose to go all paternalistic and self-righteous and pathetically self-important on us. And they wonder why we have issues with them??

Water meters. "We're gonna watch you when you take a shower! We'll show you who's boss!"

How ridiculous.

Reminds me of that Cosby show where the wife gets pissed off because the mayor wants to bring in water meters to conserve water.

I agreed with her character's anger then, and I still agree with it now as it's come to be in real life!

(Scene from The Cosby Show, opens with Cliff and Claire in bed getting ready to go to sleep...)


Clair: I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
Clair: CLIFF.

Cliff: WHAT'S HAPPENING?

Clair: READ THIS.
Clair: READ THIS ARTICLE.

Cliff: RIGHT.

Clair: READ THIS.

Cliff: WHY DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT?

Clair: YOU HAVE TO READ THIS.

Cliff: IS IT ABOUT ME?

Clair: PLEASE, JUST READ IT.

Cliff: "WATER METERS TO BE INSTALLED IN CITY DWELLINGS."

Clair: READ ON.

Cliff: "IN AN ATTEMPT TO CONSERVE THE CITY'S WATER RESOURCES
"THE MAYOR HAS PROPOSED THE INSTALLATION OF METERS

"TO MONITOR WATER USAGE.
THE PROPOSED... "

Clair: WE DON'T NEED A METER.
WE TEACH OUR CHILDREN TO CONSERVE WATER.

Cliff: THAT'S RIGHT.

Clair: WE TELL THEM NOT TO LEAVE THE WATER RUNNING WHILE THEY BRUSH THEIR TEETH.
DON'T WE TELL THEM NOT TO TAKE HOUR-LONG SHOWERS?

Cliff: THERE YOU GO.

Clair: YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS?

Cliff: OUR CHILDREN DON'T LISTEN TO US.

Clair: NO. THE CITY IS LETTING DEVELOPERS PUT UP HIGH-RISES
LIKE THE ONE GOING UP ON THE CORNER.
THAT HIGH-RISE WILL BRING
A THOUSAND MORE PEOPLE INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'LL BE USING OUR WATER.

Cliff: WATER...

Clair: CLIFF? I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO THIS. THE METERS WILL COST $350 APIECE
AND YOU KNOW WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT-

Cliff: US.

Clair: THAT'S TERRIBLE. WE'RE GOING TO WRITE THE CITY A LETTER.

Cliff: HMM?

Clair: WE'RE WRITING THE CITY.

Cliff: WE ARE?

Clair: YES.

Cliff: GO AHEAD.

Clair: OKAY. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY?

Cliff: WHAT? WHAT IS IT, DEAR?

Clair: WHAT SHOULD I SAY?

Cliff: TO WHO?

Clair: TO THE CITY.

Cliff: AT THIS HOUR?

Clair: ABOUT THE WATER METERS.

Cliff: THE CITY'S CLOSED. OH, LOOK AT THIS. DID YOU READ THIS?

Clair: WHAT?

Cliff: IT SAYS: "MAN DIES BECAUSE WIFE WILL NOT LET HIM SLEEP."

By the way, that show was recorded in the 80s. I wonder what those water meters will cost in 2011 dollars.

Open your wallets, kids. You're about to *drown* in debt.

The Thought of The Evening

"CC stands for City Caucus and not for City Casuals."

Ned, funny!

Thanks for the offer but no. I don't kiss and tell. It's complicated.
Tell you what, you want funny... you call and say it's me...
Now,that...is funny!

Be a Gent, and remember, you will always find the beauty in The Littlest Things...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw9wE1nutc4

We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

COMPLETE AGREEMENT on that, @Max.

So, is the Mayor saying that in ANY confrontation the cops will not be allowed to use any force?

That's what I thought was being billboarded.

I have it from cop friends that this Mayor (and friends) don't have much truck for the guys on the beat. And in the always shape-shifting landscape there, at least internally, issues like who is--or is not--- being promoted--is creating a lot of water cooler talk down at the VPD.

Seems like the City Manager's tentacles and ideology extend into those nether regions. So, perhaps they actually do know more about the riot than they are syaing. ;-)

All you need is love, apparently.

John...loved It!
Cosby is one of my favorites!

My solution?
This is from my weekend 'Glissandothon' yeah, a crazy idea of mine, I'll see if the 'Thing' catches on, one hour of full twitting...on Whatever, on Anyhoo and on Wazzup Vancouver!

"To Future Vision Vancouver unsolicited Advice and Enlightment...say NO! Like adults Do! Be polite, though...NO, Thank You! Wheat to Loaves?...NO THANK YOU!"

Simple, clear, targeted, right.
"Say NO to City Hall Vision Bullying"
CAMPAIGN. See how it goes...

More here:
http://twitter.com/#!/glissandoremmy
Enjoy!

We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

@ The Angry Taxpayer:

I am pretty sure that Solomon/Renewal/Tides (all the same) donated $750K to Pivot Legal as well have donated money to BC Civil Libs.

And we all know how Eby loves the police.

So am I correct in believing the Mayor tried to pin all the blame on the police in the interview? Did he ever admit that the Live Sites weren't a good idea?

@ Bob H (2):

During the interview, he still stated he didn't know how many police were on the ground the night of the riot, yet, later that same day (afternoon) all of a sudden he tells CKNW (via press release) he knows how many police but is not divuldging the number unless he is directed to by the province and their investigation)

Which tells me, he has know for a while.

No really, Glissando I wouldn't make fun. It was real. The girls wore the tshirts with the handwritten message I told you about. I don't know if they did it in lipstick or permanent marker, not professional but readable for LOL.
And George, the answer is No,I didn't take pictures because I didn't carry a camera, and with the camera phone would have to awkward...so I guess it's wasted
Have a good one!

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