Thanksgiving Quiz: Who should be Vancouver's next Mayor?

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Take your pick – which party and which individuals will lead Vancouver after 2011?

It's a Friday before a long weekend and everyone at CityCaucus Tower is about to vacate the building. Even our faithful cleaning staff person who usually stays late has checked out on her way up the coast to attend a three-day Hollyhock spa retreat/reprogramming we gave her last month as part of our generous staff bonus plan. Looking around our office on the 37th floor, this place is literally looking like the Olympic Village – a total ghost town!

You Pick Vancouver's Next Mayor!

We thought we'd change the dial a bit and have some good old fashion fun with a bit of political prognostication mixed in. That's why we're going to ask you to weigh in on who you think should become Vancouver's next Mayor. This is your turn to make your prediction on just who you think the three main mayoral candidates will be for the 2011 Vancouver civic election.

Here are the rules of the game:

  1. Provide us with up to 3 names of who you would like on the ballot and why. Be sure to include which political party they will run with i.e. COPE, NPA or Vision Vancouver. This could be 2 Vision 1 COPE, or 3 NPA candidates. It's up to you.
  2. Tell us briefly why you made the selection(s) you did.
  3. Give us your best prediction as to the outcome of next Vancouver civic election – i.e. 6 Vision, 4 NPA, 1 COPE;
  4. Important: No slagging other candidates or parties (this rule will be strictly enforced). We don't want to hear how bad the other guys are, just why you put forward your candidate(s).

We realize that Gregor Robertson is the incumbent and he has no plans to go anywhere soon. He may be the best Vision Vancouver has to offer, or you may suggest someone else. They do not have to be sitting elected officials, or even party members. You get to "blue sky" and imagine who, and which party, might lead Vancouver after November 2011. You just need to tell us all why.

Now it's over to you. Prognosticate away and have some fun with it. Have a Happy Thanksgiving from everyone here at CityCaucus Tower. We thank you for making us Canada's most popular urban affairs blog! It's much appreciated.

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42 Comments

I say: Tung Chan for the NPA, Gregor for Vision (or possibly Geoff Meggs if Gregor bolts to take over NDP), and Tim Louis for COPE. David Cadman ran, but due to the fact he was out of town so much he was not eligible to put his name on the ballot due to strict residency requirements. You have to be in Vancouver at least 50% of the time over the last 6 months prior to seeking office

My prediction is Chan wins as mayor with only a slight 1500 vote margin. He becomes Vancouver's first mayor of Chinese descent. Overall NPA wins 6 council seats and Vision 4.

Gregor then announces he will learn French, move to Ottawa and start a federal career.

I think Raymond Louie will be waiting in the wings for Gregor to totally implode so he can declare himself the saviour of Vision.

Tung Chan for the NPA and Micheal Gellar should run for council.

IF Gregor wins as mayor, I would hope for a NPA majority on council.

Mayor Rich Coleman, NPA. Why the heck not?

The Vision 'brand' has been badly tainted.

Anyone who truly wants to survive and move on - find a new party line.

this isn't a full prediction, but I would like Michael Geller, Suzanne Anton, Sean Bickerton, Arthur Griffiths, Tung Chan, to run for NPA for council. Would also like to see Ian Robertson make the leap to council.

I would like to see John Furlong, as mayor. Second choice would be David Emerson. Third choice would be Carole Taylor.

My dream candidate would be Trevor Linden. I think he is now a property developer???

Someone else who could surely beat Gregor for mayor would be long-time Liberal and Chretien aide Jason Maclean, currently the CEO of the Vancouver Board of Trade. He's got what it takes to win, but would he do it? Could he be convinced????

COPE will likely put someone like Tim Louis or David Cadman forward. Ellen Woolsworth is too much a long shot.

Vision will stay with Gregor and Raymond will have to slug it out for at least four more years as a councillor, assuming he wins back his seat.

If it was Maclean vs Robertson, I think Maclean would win with 7 seats for NPA, 3 Vision and 1 COPE. Furlong or Taylor would win 8 seats for NPA.

How is that for a Friday prediction?

1) Diane Watts -- VISION policies and OV bungling bankrupt COV. Annexed by Surrey - Diane Watts assumes control of Mayor's office. Awards contract to Pest Exterminators Inc to clean out city haul - in a tendered bid. Backyard Chickens are again banned.
2) Gregor yet again after announcing the elimination of street homlessness on Hornby due to new bike lanes but results are in doubt - one million votes all with the same mark. FD Element is hired to recount and reports that 80% of all cyclists - 800,000 - either preferred Gregor over also ran Alex Tsakumis or could care less who won. Meggs announces the win a day early - explains the city's vote counting process is so efficient they know the results even before the vote starts. Cortes Island is annexed.
3) Gregor Yet again - despite all we read and hear there are a still lot of ultra left wingers out there that derive great pleasure ramming social change down the throats of 'latte sipping, SUV driving, NIMBIES' which is how they view the balance of increasingly fewer normal taxpaying folks in Vancouver. Critical Mass hosts celebratory ride but heavy rain forces postponement until spring.

The stench and incompetence of the last NPA council is too fresh in the minds of Vancouver voters to return more than a handful of NPA wannabes. The at-large system also works against the NPA - the NPA's traditional bastion of support (southwest corner of the city) is a slowly shrinking demographic. The worst news for the NPA though is if the HST and the unpopularity of the BC Liberals continue to dominate the news as the election approaches - the NPA is viewed as the farm team for the BC Liberals - do voters want the BC Liberal/NPA tag-team running both the province and city, history tells us no. All factors presently point to a major drubbing for the NPA which may explain why so few credible candidates have expressed an interest in running under their banner.

Doesn't Tung Chan actually live in Richmond? If so, he won't fly as a candidate. This isn't the 1950's when Fred Hume could govern from West Van.

NPA-Carole Taylor (somebody please talk her into it)
COPE-Tim Louis (go for the gusto)
Vision-Geoff Meggs (isn't he really the Mayor of Vancouver already)

Council- I'd like to see Peter Ladner run for the NPA again. I bet he'd top the polls. Plus Michael Gellar & Ian Robertson. I hope Ellen Woodsworth sneaks in again, a dedicated supporter of the arts (despite her other views).

Tung Chan for Mayor vs. Gregor is NPAs best and most realistic hope.

Anybody but Ladner, Geller and their gang for the NPA and they will have a chance.

Lorne Mayencourt may be a good alternative for NPA too as Mayor. Jason McLean would be great choice too - just maybe not yet.

If COPE does not run a Mayor candidate Green Party should. McKinnon is impressive at Park Board and would be smart for him to run for Mayor considering what VV has done to park board.

At Council - who really cares. As we have seen with VV - its all a joke anyway.

My bet is still Gregor to win but the wonderful prospect of 5 NPA, 5 Vision and one COPE councillor.

Either way Gregor won't serve his term and jump to BC NDP or federal Libs long before second term is over.

The Thought of the Day

“Take the last three terms. The First was the term of the Bully. The second was the term of the Wicked. This one is the term of the Despot. The Rat, the Snake and the Monkey, just like out of the Chinese Zodiac. “

Here’s my idea.

No Mayor, no Council and no Party Hacks disguised in Civil Servant clothes for the next term. What’s the worst that could happen? Save some money? Lots of money? Less damage inflicted to this city? No controversies? No corruption, no cronyism, no nepotism? No Penny, no Foreign Implants, and no Vanity Projects? Imagine. I’ll be Swiss.

But of course, you guys don’t want that. You are a bunch of People, Vogue and Sports Illustrated magazine readers. Aren't we a nation of ass kissers and ass kickers after all?
Thanksgiving joke. CC wants‘us’ to come up with a list (aren’t you sick entirely of making up lists?) of potential candidates. Tough, eh? Not to mention that the gene pool is tainted, having to deal with the three stooges: NPA, COPE and VISION. How remarkable.

Trying to decide which candidate is more suitable is harder than trying to put yourself in the right mind-frame before getting a Thai massage from a 250 pounds, naked, hairy, Turkish and moustached, masseur from that Kurdish region were they befriend sheep and goats. Oh, well, on the other hand, I dunno’, maybe some of you lads and lassies are on the liking-it curve on this offer.

I am not going to advance you names. That’s redundant. Just look around you and check their records. It’s depressing.
So, I am not going to advance names (well, despite the fact that sometimes these political characters can be Bashful...Sleepy, Grumpy, Sneezy, Dopey, Happy, you see where I am going with this) but I am going to give you what I think they should do or represent.
So, there:

GLISSANDO’S TUPPENCE AND A DEAD CAT...

NO PARTY AFFILIATION,
WHAT’S WRONG WITH
INDEPENDENT?
NO CORPORATE DONATION,
NO FOREIGN INFLUENCE.
NO CRONYSM, NEPOTISM,
NO ATARACTIC SERVILISM,
NO CELEBRITIES, NO ‘STARS’,
NO PEDIGREE RELATED NARCISSISTS,
NO PUPPETS, NO MUPPETS,
NO CRUMPETS.
NO GURUS, NO 500 YEARS ITCH
NOT EVEN 100 LONG TERM FOOLS
KEEP IT SHORT, YOU PHONIES,
MY GENERATION -SHORT, BABOONS.
NO PUBESCENT PUNKS WITH UP TURNED NOSES
WITH THOUGHTS OF GRANDEUR
THAT THINK THEIR PAY IS TOO POOR
COMPARED TO THAT OF QUEENS AND KINGS
NO ONE THAT THINKS HIS JOB,
IS ONLY A FRONT FOR A DIFFERENT JOB
I WANT SOMEONE TO BE ON THE FENCE,
NOT BE ‘THE FENCE’
I WANT SOMEONE THAT
WHEN IT IS REFERRED TO AS THE
'CON MAN’
IS BECAUSE HIS NAME IS ‘CONMAN’
I DON’T MIND IF THEY WEAR
A DICK OR A PUSSY
AS LONG AS THEY DON’T NAME IT ‘GALORE’
OR ‘TRACY’
I WANT SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO WORK
FOR THE ‘ANONYMOUS VANCOUVERUS’
NOT THINKING LIKE A DORK
MANIPULATED LIKE A WUUS
I WANT SOMEONE THAT GETS HIS KNOWLEDGE
FROM LIFE AND TRAINED EXPERIENCE
NOT FROM MATCHING HIS JACKET TO HIS PANTS
IN TOO MANY SHOWROOM MIRRORS
I WANT SOMEONE THAT DOESN’T TURN HIS NOSE
AT FREE SANDWICHES AND POP,
NO HYPOCRITES OR ‘HYPPOCRATES’
No LIARS, NO BULLSHITTERS,
NO BULLYS, NO WICKED
NO ENVIRO-KOOKS ON SPEED
NO SECTARIANS ON WEED
NO CHICKEN COOPS
NO BEES ON ROOFS
NO GOATS ON CITY LAWNS
SOMEONE PLEASE,
TAKE AWAY
THOSE BUM-TEXTING-BERRIES FROM
THE NOSE-PICKING APES
AND THROW THEM
A RAZOR AND SOME SHAVING CREAM,
TRY TO MAKE THEM HUMANS AGAIN
SLAP THEM ON THE BUMS
TO SCREAM.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH THAT?
AREN'T THESE THE ONES YOU
WERE LOOKING FOR,
OR IS IT ALL IN MY DREAM?
IF NOT THEN, GOOD LUCK
TO YOU!
SNOOPY TIZZY...

We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

But Gliss,even an independent needs to party every now and then...

This century or next...?

How about deciding on just one, because I can't vote for all of them. Trevor Linden is just smart enough to realize he wouldn't be a good Mayor. Chairman of the BoT? Real grassroots there. How is that any different from what's going on right now?
Is John Furlong that bored that he wants to be cooped up in the non-seismically upgraded death trap at 12th and Cambie? Arthur Griffiths? Even for Council? Next...

Holy S*** Bud-man, don't be bursting bubbles like that, can't you see we're all having fun here???

Hey, why no Green party logo in your image? I suggest we should also recommend candidates for them as well. I say Stuart MacKinnon would be a great candidate for mayor. If he decides not to run as mayor, he should run on a joint slate with NPA. He could be the NPA's new version of Gord Price. And I meant that in a nice way.

JUST GET RID OF GREGOR ROBERTSON AND RAYMOND LOUIE - I AM SO SICK OF THEM!

@Shawn, thanks for your note. We meant no disrespect for the Green Party, who have shown Vancouver that they are a party of principles, and I also share your favourable opinion of Stuart Mackinnon. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the civic Green Party has not run a mayoralty candidate in recent elections, nor have they attempted to run enough candidates to form a government.

Personally, I'd like to see more thoughtful, principled candidates come forward from the Green Party to round out council and park board. I cannot confirm whether the NPA will be running full slates next year, but if they are leaving spots open then that presents a real opportunity for the Greens to put forward a couple candidates for council and park board for sure. If I were the Green Party I'd be trying to ensure that Stuart is running again, then find someone of that calibre to run with him, and do the same for council at least.

I suspect that the BCTF will be pushing very, very hard to support accommodating candidates from COPE and Vision on School Board, making the odds of landing a Green there in 2011 tougher, but not impossible.

Carol Taylor or John Furlong for Mayor please. She would sweep council and Vision would be wiped out forever.

@GR

After MK expunged his reference to 'Juanita', because of course all ethnic groups are equally represented among cleaning staff, you have let the side down by mentioning (alleged) Anatolian Capraphilia. As the average Ziryan is a lot less forgiving, and better armed, than the average Juanita this may be a mistake.

Thinking of sheep and goats, I'll vote for anyone who appears to have read and understood Matthew 25; 31-46.

There is only one name that can save this town--that person would be willing to do it, too, but the circumstances have ot be right. Carole Taylor will not run for Mayor so some of you stop dreaming.

And I will provide you with that name tomorrow. Come on over and have a read some time in the afternoon.

And if ANYONE is going to run again, it's pretty clear that the first consideration is that they have to be able to read a balance sheet FIRST.

I can only hope Carol Taylor steps up to the plate, either as a Independent or with the NPA.

No doubt Gregor will be the Vision candidate but hopefully he'll decide he's had enough and they'll put in Geoff Meggs so maybe that will increase the success of the NPA or Carol.

Then I'd like to see any Cope candidate in order to help dilute the success of those still attached to Vision (god help us)

Why Carol Taylor: I think she knows the City, the issues; she's experienced, intelligent, informed, very capable and less politicized than any other qualified person I can think of.

I would hope if she ran there would be a good team of candidates running as Councillors for the NPA who might stand a chance of getting at least a slim majority.

Unfortunately this City and Province are very politicized and Gord's policies aren't helping matters (even if he and the Liberals are still the best option) Politicized people don't listen to facts, reason or implications, they just vote emotionally and Vision (along with the Harper and the Republicans) appear to be very effective with their smear campaigns to inflame emotions.

Or, if not at the Civic level, maybe Carol will eventually step in as a Liberal candidate for Premier.

It's really too bad for all Vancouver citizens that Carole Taylor won't consider running....I know she can read a balance sheet... sigh

David Hadaway , you are coming too strong on Glissy. Way, waaay out of whack I may add. How about if I tell you that you've already enjoyed his writing on some major networks...on Bill Maher's canceled Politically Incorrect' to name one. I bet he wrote that in 15-20 minutes or so, and for free!!! If you haven't noticed by now, he's laughing at you, not with you. And please, don't bring the Religion angle into conversation either. We have enough religion driven politicians crazies in America. Glissy, I am staying at Lori. When you have the time. :-))

Glissy,

That list disqualifies nearly every wannabe in Vancouver!

Where's Jimmy Spokewheel when you need him?

sigh, I think we are dreaming about Carol Taylor but the thought of her taking on Penny Ballem is quite thought provoking.

Julia,

hummm, Carole and Penny....that is something to think about. ha ha ha...

Angry,

this is exactly what Glissando said:
"No Mayor, no Council and no Party Hacks disguised in Civil Servant clothes for the next term. What’s the worst that could happen? Save some money? Lots of money? Less damage inflicted to this city? No controversies? No corruption, no cronyism, no nepotism? No Penny, no Foreign Implants, and no Vanity Projects? Imagine. I’ll be Swiss."
I can live with that.

David, I always enjoyed Glissando's ops, including this one. With him you have to read between the lines, which you apparently can't. Makes you think. Stay on the subject and don't bring the fiction literature in here.

I give up. Is any mention of the Bible (I'm an atheist btw) so shocking to the nerves that you really take seriously a reference to Anatolian capraphilia, known as sheep shagging in english? Or to Mike's sudden attack of political correctness in removing the reference to "Juanita" the cleaning staff "person"?

I have enough respect for GR's level of education to imagine that he would pick up the passage, which is a very famous one about separating the sheep from the goats and might be a not particularly subtle reference to making choices. It's also incidentally been popular in some Democratic circles in the U.S. as a riposte to the Tea Baggers.

Anyway I may not be the wittiest person in the world, though my comments are generally brief,* but at least I have a sense of humour.

* reference to Polonius Hamlet II ii, "Brevity is the soul of wit." It's funny because he is a windbag. It was written by Shakespeare. You have to read between the lines with him too. I need to get to the pub, pronto.

The Thought of the Midnight

“Thanksgiving Day. Here’s what I think, if you put the Sheep to the Right and the Goats to the Left, that leave the Turkeys, where? ...Dead Center!”

David.
What’s wrong with me having some fun in a Politically Incoherent fashion? As a rule I strictly enforce, I don’t explain myself to no one unless I feel it is somewhat deserved. I have to say that I always enjoyed your comments. True and brief. If I ever intended to do that, I would have done that, but I didn’t. I like to tease, divert and tell stories. But mind you, I am not a nutjob; I am in fact a serious character, I research every story I write, I read a lot, and I am very thorough.

Having said that, Marco Savorelli ( Ciao Marco!) is a real person, and he’s in the same line of work as me, (BTW, I didn’t get that Jimmy Spokewheel reference) and he knows me since before the Internet era.

Anyway.
I don’t want to let anyone at a disadvantage; therefore I’ll start with the pompous Polonius’s speech he used to send off his son Laertes.

“And these few precepts in thy memory
Look thou character. Give thy thoughts no tongue,
Nor any unproportion’d thought his act.
Be thou familiar, but by no means vulgar.
Those friends thou hast, and their adoption tried,
Grapple them unto thy soul with hoops of steel,
But do not dull thy palm with entertainment
Of each new-hatched unfledged comrade. Beware
Of entrance to a quarrel; but being in,
Bear’t that th’ opposed may beware of thee.
Give every man thy ear, but few thy voice:
Take each man’s censure, but reserve thy judgement.
Costly thy habit as thy purse can buy,
But not expressed in fancy; rich, but not gaudy;
For the apparel oft proclaims the man;
And they in France of the best rank and station
Are more select and generous in that.
Neither a borrower nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.
Farewell; my blessing seasons this in thee!”

William Shakespeare

Now, I am not a church goer, but I am a good listener. So, following your advice I looked up that ‘Mathew’ passage you suggested. This is my interpretation:

‘To be or not to be’,
A Goat with indigestion,
Or Sheep with a goatee,
‘That is the question’.

Sheep, to the Right,
Docile, sluggish and puffy,
Where Goats are fright,
‘Sinistra’, overly huffy.

Goats choose the fun,
Over the Sheep’s abandon,
Hoping to end up in Canaan,
Instead, they fall to Abaddon.

‘To die, to sleep’ a bit extreme,
Does that mean, I’ll get your vote,
Though, ‘Perchance to dream’,
I do not need and do not want?

'Aye there's the point.
To be, or not to be,
Scribe says: 'Tis Joint?'
I give it back to Thee!

We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

I'm out of here.!

And with that, well entertained, I say goodnight dear Gliss...

GR

If I caused you any offence it was unintended. I'm still a little surprised at being taken so literally, maybe it's a problem of the medium. However the only solution would be using emoticons or smilies which will never happen. Or posting less, which will as I'll be back at work without the spare time which '..nos inducas in tentationem."

Jimmy appeared in the recent 100+ comment cycling thread. He was a comic creation of the most extreme Gregorian kind, quite incredible therefore with complete credibility. I thought it was a good joke, others among the credulous and deceived did not, which was even funnier!

Glissando Remmy,
you made my day with your ramblings, especially with this:

"‘To be or not to be’,
A Goat with indigestion,
Or Sheep with a goatee,
‘That is the question’.

Sheep, to the Right,
Docile, sluggish and puffy,
Where Goats are fright,
‘Sinistra’, overly huffy.

Goats choose the fun,
Over the Sheep’s abandon,
Hoping to end up in Canaan,
Instead, they fall to Abaddon.

‘To die, to sleep’ a bit extreme,
Does that mean, I’ll get your vote,
Though, ‘Perchance to dream’,
I do not need and do not want?

'Aye there's the point.
To be, or not to be,
Scribe says: 'Tis Joint?'
I give it back to Thee!

I could kiss you. G-E-N-I-U-S!
:-)

Happy Thanksgiving Glissy,

I'm thankful for the gift of laughter you give us ... It makes my day, everyday :-)

The Thought of the Day

“Rejoice everyone! It’s Thankstaking Day, again, the day when all Native Indians in North America are remembering the Hostile but Thoughtful Takeover by the White Pilgrims. ”

I do get the playing of the 'Bigger Man' routine, with the Natives, inviting them to dinner and stuff, and I do get the joke of serving them ...their own food, what I don’t get is what’s with the turkeys. What did they do?

David,
Fuggetabautit! You didn’t offend me. If anything, that Shakespeare reference of yours inspired me. I should be the one thanking you! As a matter of fact, look, I am almost doing it again. Sacrebleu!

Gerry, George, thanks guys.
Tyra, Michele...oh, mama!

French Toast and a ‘20 minutes’ hardboiled egg! That’s me .
Love to stay but have to go.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! That includes Mike, Daniel and stuff @ CC!

We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

Ohhhhh....He's here DH. Honing yet another scathing review of His eminence's detractors.

Your pal.
Jimmy Spokewheel
"Spokesman" for the NOW generation.
:-)

jimmy, you're back!!!!
;-)

Here are the rules of the game:
Provide us with up to 3 names of who you would like on the ballot and why.

Be sure to include which political party they will run with i.e. COPE, NPA or Vision Vancouver. This could be 2 Vision 1 COPE, or 3 NPA candidates. It's up to you.
Tell us briefly why you made the selection(s) you did.
Give us your best prediction as to the outcome of next Vancouver civic election – i.e. 6 Vision, 4 NPA, 1 COPE;
Important: No slagging other candidates or parties (this rule will be strictly enforced). We don't want to hear how bad the other guys are, just why you put forward your candidate(s).

I hate this, I can only list one NPA.

Gölök (ZLF) Buday because I trust myself. Independent (or own name if campaign has 50 members), I voted for me before and am a moderately mad, or eccentric. Not a megalomaniac that we are use to or the forensically crazy who are into mass murder, like Bush. Too much logic and no creativity is a bad thing. Also love my opposition of petition requirements and fees for candidates. More time and money taken by the state. Who else will fight political psychiatry and fight to limit government and fight to keep the cop shop clean of corruption. I, Buday, would accept party endorsements by rank-n-file votes but not on the ballot or membership. Mayor of Vancouver is needed, not Mayor of NPA, COPE, or Vision. Not even of my start up C.R.E.E.D./Republican-Liberty or Work Smart Party for/of Vancouver. If it has a few names maybe the council choices can pick varied labels. www.worksmartparty.org
Jason Burrows (just because I need another name and a fellow liberty freak and we can trade sigs).
Patrick Mahlia (NPA) (just to add another comedian).

Frankly I wouldn't vote for many, I count myself as the least of all evils in each past race. But reality is the press and debates will block all 3rd class (3rd party) and 4th class (independent) citizen candidates until early voting starts. Not enough seeking out information themselves. Or cafe press swag and sign grabs. Nore donations or past voters asking to sign a sheet.
Important question, would you sign their right to be on the ballot. You can legally sign all papers (as I would, well as a Candidate I'd trade it, since if they feel I have no right on the ballot, they have no right either).

I picked out 2014, whoops/

No I was thinking 2011, 2014 would be a re-election attept LOL.

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