CKNW civic affairs panel Tuesday at 9 am

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cknw_logoA reminder to all our readers that tomorrow is Tuesday, and that means the weekly CKNW civic affairs panel is going to hit the airwaves at 9 am (PST). Panelist Frances Bula is back after her four week excursion to Europe and she will be joined by CityCaucus.com blogger Daniel Fontaine and Jim Green, development consultant.

cbc-logoYou can expect the topic of the Burrard Bridge experiment, comparisons to European cities and other civic topics to be debated by the panel. If you miss the show, you can always visit the audio vault and listen anytime.

Be sure to tune in weekly from 9 am - 10 am every Tuesday. You can also listen to CityCaucus.com's Erin Chutter every Monday morning on the CBC's Early Edition at 690 on the AM dial in Vancouver.

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If you get the chance, when talking about the Burrard Bridge Bike Lanes, can you bring up the idea of (i) requiring all bikes to have insurance as we do with vehicles; and (ii) ticketing, for real, all infractions caused by bikes such as blowing through red lights and faling to wear helmets and other disobeying traffic signs.

Gerry,

A Toronto City Councillor was promoting licences for bikes (and he briefly mentioned insurance).

There is no evidence that these measures improve safety and may in fact deter cycling - active transpo is something we want to encourage.

Further, how would those on lower incomes afford insurance? Some use bikes instead of public transit because bikes are, after the initial purchase cost and the odd bit of maintenance, free. What about kids?

Here's a CityCaucus blog on this issue: http://www.citycaucus.com/2009/07/how-one-city-councillor-wants-to-make-bicycles-inaccessible

However, I agree that cyclists who ignore road signs and traffic signals should be ticketed. Which in Toronto (and indeed in all of Ontario under the Highway Traffic Act), they are. Are they not in Vancouver?

"ticketing, for real, all infractions caused by bikes". And for cars? Plenty of infractions there, in fact 95% of the traffic on the road is vehicles, so we can extrapolate that they're related to 95% of infractions. If a bike hits a car then the car might get a scratch. If a car hits a bike then at 50km+ the biker is likely to be killed. It's pretty easy to see where the priority enforcement should be.

You can't really blame the Vancouver police though, they're spending up to one third of their time dealing with the mentally ill, a bunch of time with chronic criminals, throw in serious crime and it doesn't really leave a lot of time for ticketing either cyclists or motorists.

To Eric,

Insurance should be mandatory regardless of income level in much the same way that insurance for a vehicle is a requirement without regard for the financial resources of the applicant.

The point of insurance is to afford any party who is injured, whether it be damage to a vehicle or a struck pedestrian, a means to receive financial compensation as a result of an accident.

To Bill, while I can not argue against that the notion that a car will cause more damage then a bike; your supposition that a bike will only cause a "scratch" is incorrect. Bikes, particularly if ridden at high speeds, can cause significant damage to a vehicle. In my case, I have had my back window of my car shattered as a biker failed to stop a red light at the bottom of the SFU hill and rode directly into the back of my car (the biker did survive). The costs to repair my vehicle was in excess of $3000.00. That's hardly a scratch. I know this sounds "cold" given the fact that the individual was injured but the point is that with enough speed, and carelessness, damage can be significant.

If we leave the vehicle argument aside, insurance would be a blessing for pedestrians. As you've rightly suggested, cars will "win" in an accident - pedestrians will not. If you are walking and hit by a bike, you can be signficantly damaged. Bill Good mentioned a friend/colleque of his who was killed in this manner. Insurance will allow pedestrians a means to go after the person on a bike for payment of any incurred health problems, hospital stays, loss of income and so forth.

In any event, it will be interesting to see whether, on account of increasing bicycles on the road systems, whether the Province will begin investigating the feasibility of insurance requirements.

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